View Full Version : CCBill Stats Go To Shit For Anyone Else?
Just checking my ccbill stats, the programs I promote have been a rock at a fairly steady 1:1500 for the last few years. Never have I had such a bad run as the last 2 weeks. I'm at 1:12,000. Non ccbill stuff seems to be steady, not sure what's happening here.
Hows everybody elses stats with them?
jscott
01-15-2011, 02:24 AM
This month compared to last month my ccbill sales are double worse :(
Double worse is bad man, sry to hear that. Not to one up you but looking at CCBill stats I'm almost 8 times as worse. ;)
Last month I was 1:569
This month 1:4100ish
Seems theres a huge difference to how statsremote collects their data to how ccbill does in their stats panel. I'm curious why that is too but more curious why I'm 8 times as bad as normal. talking with their technical support now...
Well they checked links for me and stuff, nothing more they could do for me. Guess I just gotta wait a few days to see what happens then maybe start filling out Wendys and McDonalds application forms.
faxxaff
01-16-2011, 09:35 AM
This month I am looking at 50% plus in CCBill revenue, but December 2010 was horrible.
jscott
01-16-2011, 06:21 PM
0 ccbill sales today :(
1:13,744 unique according to statsremote
1:7723 unique according to their own stats panel.
I found one reason for the major discrepancy and that was because I hadn't checked the box to 'include affiliates without sales' in the ccbill panel stats. Still a big difference between the two.
Huge difference from the 15-25 sales per month I normally expect, 1:16 days now, wow.
Traffic volume remains the same and I've checked the sites that do me my most sales and I see no problems there nor does CCBill tech support so this is very odd to me.
My pea brain is wracked for what could be the problem so I'm going to have to start pushing non-ccbill stuff hard to try and correct for next month.
As always, CCbill is all over the place for me. Been that way for years.
At least I know I will be paid with them. That takes a little of the pain away.
Asian Webbie
01-17-2011, 07:34 AM
Knowing 100% that you'll be paid makes it almost worthwhile to fight through it and continue pushing ccbill sites hardcore
...rather than jumping over to these NATS sponsors that is like 50% chance of paying
Nerrim
01-17-2011, 11:21 AM
CCBill sites have over the last 2 months or so have started getting sales at last.
I got a cheque off them last month which was good but unfortunately it was only for $29 so I can't do much with it as I live in the UK and if I put that cheque into the bank after all the charges it'll be worth about £4 at the most :eek:
so now I'm on the hunt for more CCBill sites to promote to try and hopefully get better amounts on the cheques, it's a pity that CCBill don't do a minimum cheque amount that'd be great but I suppose you can't have everything.
it's a pity that CCBill don't do a minimum cheque amount that'd be great but I suppose you can't have everything.
I'm pretty sure they do have a minimum, at least I'm sure they used to. I thought you were able to adjust the minimum and cheque frequency to be either weekly, bi-monthly or monthly.
Knowing 100% that you'll be paid makes it almost worthwhile to fight through it and continue pushing ccbill sites hardcore
...rather than jumping over to these NATS sponsors that is like 50% chance of paying
agreed, ccbill is about as reliable it can get for being payed in this industry. just in my situation theres no explanation for why my stats went as far south as they have so until i figure it out and can correct i gotta push non ccbill. dont worry d dubya, it wont be epoch sites ;) i havnt been able to convert anything epoch well enough to make it worth my effort.
unique, month to date, all programs 1:14,686
2010 stats, all programs, uniques
dec 1:1,398
nov 1:1,083
oct 1:1,sep 1:1,221
aug 1:1,168
jul 1:1060
jun 1:977
may 1:1,191
apr 1:1,226
mar 1:1,594
feb 1:1,770
jan 1:1,413
and generally the same consistency for years before that
rebills for the next 2 months going to fall off :D
jscott
01-18-2011, 02:32 AM
Holy shit yours dropped off so hard man :(
I have made $4.97 total today on ccbill LOL
Feel bad for me!!!!!
I have made $4.97 total today on ccbill LOL
Thatll be my everyday ccbill stats about 60 days from now :D
faxxaff
01-18-2011, 07:00 PM
CCBill sites have over the last 2 months or so have started getting sales at last.
I got a cheque off them last month which was good but unfortunately it was only for $29 so I can't do much with it as I live in the UK and if I put that cheque into the bank after all the charges it'll be worth about £4 at the most
You can email customer service at CCbill and they will accommodate your wish to set any payout amount as a minimum .... but no less than 25$. I have set it to a high figure to avoid fees on wires and checks. Works well.
If you live in the UK or have a UK based Ltd., try Citibank. They offer multi currency accounts with free deposit of US checks.
Nerrim
01-18-2011, 09:25 PM
You can email customer service at CCbill and they will accommodate your wish to set any payout amount as a minimum .... but no less than 25$. I have set it to a high figure to avoid fees on wires and checks. Works well.
If you live in the UK or have a UK based Ltd., try Citibank. They offer multi currency accounts with free deposit of US checks.
Thanks for your help mate. I've just emailed CCBill to see if they'll change the minimum amount to a $100. I got my second cheque of CCBill a couple of days ago slightly higher but still uncashable :D Might well look at Citibank later as well if it's free cheque deposit.
jscott
01-19-2011, 02:07 AM
omfg, this is horrible on ccbill, at 1st it was funny, cuz i thought it'd bounce back up, but looks like things are settling at making about $10/day now on ccbill, WTF!!!!!!!!!
Nerrim
01-19-2011, 08:32 PM
I got a reply off CCBill saying they'd changed the minimum amount to a $100 and that they'd sort the two cheques I already got from them out.
KaoSouL
01-20-2011, 08:57 AM
January ratio 1:481
December ratio 1:500
November ratio 1:99
October ratio 1:69
September ratio 1:27
August ratio 1:354
July ratio 1:387
Sales never really seem to fall into a steady pattern. But a 1:500 ratio being the worst still isn't all that bad. Sept, Oct, Nov I didn't submit many free sites, so all my sales were primarily blog text clicks... great ratio's but less traffic.... months I was heavy on free sites worse ratios but way more traffic.... the months with poorer ratio's were actually way more profitable.
1:17,776 statsremote. impossible.
jscott
01-22-2011, 03:05 AM
Omfg! :(
Shoplifter
01-28-2011, 06:36 PM
My CCBill has been pretty well average for this period.
But other programs such as Nastydollars have really dropped off.
faxxaff
02-07-2011, 03:48 PM
1:17,776 statsremote. impossible.
Maybe you are using FHG codes with redirects? This could be a reason for such high numbers as CCbill counts hits to galls and not to the actual site. I find join page and join submits to be more reliable numbers than raw click data.
Maybe you are using FHG codes with redirects? This could be a reason for such high numbers as CCbill counts hits to galls and not to the actual site. I find join page and join submits to be more reliable numbers than raw click data.
yea theres a lot of guys that didnt know how to set up their ccbill fhg's to count hits properly, that always messed with my stats back in the day. i dont use fhg's anymore, some old sites still got them hanging around some places but most my traffic is direct to tour or direct to join. but nah, this is something else, no idea what yet. my sales across the board are down for a bunch of reasons but nowhere near ccbills drop. its some anomaly i wasnt bright enough to detect.
my january 01 stats ended up being 1:8097, better than the 1:20,000 it was looking like but still not the 1:1650 average I've grown used to since July 2007.
for comparison, my next worst record month ever with ccbill was january 2007, thats one of 11 months i was throwing larger amounts of junk traffic from shit medium skim tgp's to poorly designed fhg's that linked to ghetto tours with a 20th the SE traffic i get now and I still came out at 1:5712
(all stats are statsremote stats, uniques, the ccbill admin panel reports lower ratios cuz they by default omit data from sites without sales probably to make their stats look better as well as some other reasons even after factoring in sites without sales)
faxxaff
08-06-2011, 09:14 AM
This month my CCBill stats are really not good. What's going on?
This month my CCBill stats are really not good. What's going on?
Well, hopefully it's just a sales anomaly and it picks up again. You don't want the problem I had. Only made three sales that whole month, near the month end as I recall. Something had to have been broken on their end, something to do with the new year rollover, I don't know, but it hurt.
I'd message them and ask them about it if you haven't already. It could spur them to correct something on their end if they're able to or there were some problems they're aware of affecting some affiliates. I did that once before and it worked for me. Of course they never admitted it, sales just automatically turned back on again. No conspiracy theorist speculation either, the time I recall that happening was right after they did their big stats system overhaul and it seemed pretty obvious there were some affiliates with tracking problems other than myself, even outside of the regular gfy ccbill conspiracy complaints crowd.
faxxaff
09-05-2011, 12:53 AM
I'd message them and ask them about it if you haven't already. It could spur them to correct something on their end if they're able to or there were some problems they're aware of affecting some affiliates. I did that once before and it worked for me. Of course they never admitted it, sales just automatically turned back on again.
I noticed some numbers in my stats for some sponsors don't add up. Spent 2 hours on comparing subscription numbers, sponsor accounts and payment amounts with dates. Cash payments are short of significant amounts for a couple of months. It's a miracle I did find this out as their stats interface is all but friendly on my eyes. Shooting them an email now and looking forward to their response. Thanks for the tip, Tung :-) I appreciate your kind help.
jscott
09-05-2011, 05:08 AM
1:25,000 ccbill for Sept
...... :confused: :eek:
KOMAJI
09-06-2011, 10:51 PM
Thats awful... Whats the 411?
faxxaff
09-07-2011, 08:25 PM
I noticed some numbers in my stats for some sponsors don't add up. Spent 2 hours on comparing subscription numbers, sponsor accounts and payment amounts with dates. Cash payments are short of significant amounts for a couple of months. It's a miracle I did find this out as their stats interface is all but friendly on my eyes. Shooting them an email now and looking forward to their response. Thanks for the tip, Tung :-) I appreciate your kind help.
Got a reply from CCBill and it's amazing. Obviously, programs can avoid paying old affiliate's rebills atm when they signed up under subaccounts by group subaccounts into one main account. Now, this could be just a glitch that has not been foreseen, but it could be used by programs to decrease their marketing bills. The devil is everywhere.
KOMAJI
09-08-2011, 09:30 AM
Got a reply from CCBill and it's amazing. Obviously, programs can avoid paying old affiliate's rebills atm when they signed up under subaccounts by group subaccounts into one main account. Now, this could be just a glitch that has not been foreseen, but it could be used by programs to decrease their marketing bills. The devil is everywhere.
So now everyone can skim? wtf?
jscott
09-10-2011, 09:21 AM
ccbill doesn't reply to any kind of issues like this
jscott
09-10-2011, 09:21 AM
Got a reply from CCBill and it's amazing. Obviously, programs can avoid paying old affiliate's rebills atm when they signed up under subaccounts by group subaccounts into one main account. Now, this could be just a glitch that has not been foreseen, but it could be used by programs to decrease their marketing bills. The devil is everywhere.
WTF! how how how? how can they do this?
KOMAJI
09-10-2011, 10:21 AM
They wont respond on an open board just about anything. Are you contacting them directly? By e-mail? Probably best way.
jscott
09-10-2011, 10:50 AM
Nahh man, i wont even waste my time, i've emailed their support few times before, and i get the same exact response each time...... i dont even know if it's a real person that is replying or an automated robot
KOMAJI
09-10-2011, 11:18 AM
Nahh man, i wont even waste my time, i've emailed their support few times before, and i get the same exact response each time...... i dont even know if it's a real person that is replying or an automated robot
Last year, when I was on the east coast, I was talking to a real POS. He said it was the "Time of the Devil"...I introduced him to a couple a dudes from Juarez, and he found out he was right. Prolly u right too. And so is Faxxaff. Time to unleash hell and not worry about it. You feel me?
KaoSouL
09-11-2011, 03:22 PM
My ratio is 1:142 for this month... I'm actually doing better with CCBill then ever before.
All my signup's are from sidebar text links not FHGS. The only sales I'm making are for bukkake money and bukkake dollars....
I'd be one broke ass mother fucker without bukkake.
faxxaff
09-18-2011, 02:52 PM
WTF! how how how? how can they do this?
It can be done. And I have experienced it with a couple sponsors so far. Best solution will be to contact sponsor directly and request payment by Paxum or Paypal. This has worked for me so far.
CCbill support was so kind to explain the situation to me, but stated it was the programs responsibility.
I will not discuss this anymore. I fear it will be counter productive. Some programs might want to seek out opportunities to abuse this loophole and I don't want to give them any information on how this works.
On a side note: these changes can be targeted against particular affiliates and don't need to be global program policies from what I learnt. Always be kind to programs and their admins, specially when they run multiple sites from different accounts.
Asian Webbie
09-19-2011, 10:44 AM
Wow that is absolutely horrible. Good Faxxaff, I agree best to try keep it as low as possible. People will do "the darndest" things nowdays to save a buck, steal a buck, or leech a buck :(
Shoplifter
09-22-2011, 07:46 PM
I'm curious if you guys are seeing this in your CCBill stats:
Has the ratio of rebills to sales changed this month as compared to say the last 6 months?
In my case this is the first month where initial sales are outnumbering rebills and there is a negative ratio of rebills/sales.
A couple of guys I have talked to have seen this in both their merchant and affiliate accounts so curious what everyone here sees.
faxxaff
11-18-2011, 05:30 AM
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Has the ratio of rebills to sales changed this month as compared to say the last 6 months?
In my case this is the first month where initial sales are outnumbering rebills and there is a negative ratio of rebills/sales.
A little late to the party, but this November I am observing the same. New sales top rebills and ratios are improving. Looks like I will gain 50% on CCBill this month.
jscott
11-19-2011, 01:10 AM
My refunds, 19 so far now in November..... making a horrible month for me :(
nickutis
11-24-2011, 11:16 AM
How's your ratio's for the last few days? Mine are tanking to all time lows.. :(
faxxaff
11-24-2011, 11:51 AM
How's your ratio's for the last few days? Mine are tanking to all time lows.. :(
This month was great for me, but last days suck. Might be related to sudden dramatic downward shift in economy that will be far worse than the financial crisis of 2008.
KaoSouL
11-24-2011, 06:42 PM
I'm a little bellow average, but not by much. Things could still balance out before the months end.
jscott
11-25-2011, 04:56 PM
I'm pretty shocked yesterday (thanksgiving) and today are great sales so far :)
...i'm very shocked
faxxaff
04-10-2012, 10:55 AM
How did the CCBill dance work out for you guys. Mine did OK until last month. Now, they are down the drain. Used to have 2 times daily revenue of what I made last week. Nats sponsors tell me CCbill is moving down in their cascade.
Not had a sale through CCBill in a long... long... time. I've stepped up promo on a few niche sites to see if I can turn things around, but it almost feels futile.
Either way, trying to keep positive that things will get better.
jscott
04-11-2012, 06:55 AM
I can't really complain totally about ccbill, if I complain right now about anything, must be about google traffic, overall traffic, clicks to sponsors, shitty inactive sponsors who don't reply or don't pay, shitty ratios, or even current shitty nats sponsors ratios that just fell off :(
Ya ya, April is really kicking the shit out of me
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